There are very few people who can relate to losing a child the way 20 young kids lost their lives in the Connecticut school shooting.
But Tom Teves of Ahwatukee can relate, having lost his son to the movie theatre shooting in Colorado earlier this year -- and he is watching the events in Connecticut closely.
24-year-old Alex Teves was sitting toward the back of that Colorado movie theater. He was shot while protecting his girlfriend.
It's been 5 months since the shooting, and his father says unless you've been through something like this, it's impossible to know how hard it is.
"Truthfully, there are 40 parents now that just joined the worst club on earth that has the highest dues in the world and nobody wants to be in it," Teves told FOX 10.
"Right now they are in this circus, they meet the president, all this stuff happens… the outpouring of love from the country will be there, but it is still it is your kid. I sat there and thought, is it worse to lose your kid at 24 or 6, and as much as I miss my son at least I had 24 years with him.
"What kind of country do we live in where people shoot multiple times 6-year-olds, and why would we allow weapons like that to exist on our streets? As a country we better wake up cause if we don't it is just going to keep happening.
"Give me a use of a machine gun other than to kill people. If you want to argue the 2nd amendment... whoever argues that I am going to go out and buy a tank and I am going to drive it up their street and say ok I have the right to bear arms? Is this what you are talking about? Cause where does it end?
"Let's not call him a shooter, let's call him a coward. Anybody that walks into an elementary school and shoots little kids is not anything but a coward and evil coward.
"To be honest with you, the reality is that there is a cloud over my life and it is for the rest of my life. It won't go away," adds Teves.
Tom Teves and his wife have both become advocates for stricter gun laws. In fact, Caren Teves appeared on national television with a number of other relatives of victims from the Colorado shooting. The topic was gun control.